Apologetics Answers
Tuesday, August 12, 2003
Anton Hein on "Fair and Balanced" Reporting
Writing on Apologetics Index, "co-publisher" Anton Hein states the following about your friendly neighborhood Blogger -- me:

"I did not claim that Mr. Kellner ignored the Local Church's cultic behavior, but said "it appears you fail to acknowledge and/or understand" that behavior:

"Mark Kellner's failure to acknowledge and/or understand

"a) the Local Church's lengthy record of legal threats,
"b) and its status as - theologically - a cult of Christianity, and
"c) its record of cultic behavior

has been addressed on the AR-lists before. I feel no need to enter into a discussion with him on these issues.

"That said, if Mr. Kellner wishes to support the Local Church in its theology and behavior, Christian apologists and countercult professionals should take note of this.

"If he merely wants to report on the issues, it is my hope and prayer that he familiarizes himself a) with sound theology, and b) with the history of the conflicts he chooses to write about.

"Source: AR-forum, msg by Anton Hein, Aug. 10, 2003

"Mark Kellner's news article about the Local Church's legal action against Harvest House, John Ankerberg and John Weldon lacks sufficient balance. Mark's opinion on the issue is evident from the details he leaves out."

Let's look at the facts:

1) Mr. Hein seems to believe that the only way to report a set of facts is if that report agrees with his thinking. So much for the concept of two sides to every story.

2) Mr. Hein says my CT article "lacks sufficient balance." Well, I quote several people who oppose the Local Church, cite the Ankerberg/Weldon book's main complaints about the group, and made repeated attempts to get a comment from Ankerberg or Harvest House, the publisher. Neither Ankerberg nor Harvest House responded with substantive comments to these requests; Harvest House -- in a friendly way, I must say -- just said "no comment." That's their privilege, but I can't put words in Harvest House's mouth.

3) Mr. Hein has settled on the matter for himself, and so it appears that, for him, there can be no other opinion. I am willing to be persuaded, however it has to be on facts, not emotion. It should also be on current information, not decades-old materials. And it should follow the old Christian dictum (attributed to Augustine), "In Essentials, Unity; in Non-essentials, Liberty; in All Things, Charity."

Who do you think you are, Mr. Kellner?
Continuing his critique of this Blog and its contents, Apologetics Index "co-publisher" Anton Hein says this:

" In apologetics and countercult circles Kellner - who is neither an apologist nor a countercult professional - is known primarily for his partipation on the AR-talk and AR-forum lists, where Kellner:

"-- identifies himself as a Seventh-day Adventist (Kellner is the assistant director for news and information for the SDA's General Conference Communications Department).

"-- defends religious cults under the banner of 'religious freedom,' and/or
as a result of his apparent lack of theological discernment.

"-- agitates against the reporting of U.S. human rights issues as noted in Religion News Blog."

(Source: Apologetics Index "Mark Kellner" page, http://www.apologeticsindex.org/k04.html)

Some quick responses:

A) First and FOREMOST, as noted at the top of this site, the opinions expressed here are solely mine. This Blog is NOT affiliated with any church, publication, denomination or entity. I am a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church (http://www.adventist.org for those interested in information) and am employed by the Church's world headquarters. But again, the views expressed here are representative only of the writer. (And, by the way, Seventh-day Adventists ARE Christians, and certainly ones of the evangelical stripe!)

B) Mr. Hein says I am "neither an apologist nor a countercult professional." True. But I've written enough about religion and religious topics (for Christianity Today and other publications) that I feel as competent to comment on these topics as Mr. Hein apparently does. Fortunately for me, there is no professional license needed to make these comments.

C) The roots of Anton Hein's opposition to the human rights policies of the United States of America (not to mention internal justice matters, America's foreign policy and self-defense) are far too complex to discuss here. But when he says that I am someone who "agitates against the reporting of U.S. human rights issues as noted in Religion News Blog," which is another Hein-sponsored Web site, he only tells half the story, if that much.

Those of us who believe -- and again, these are my personal beliefs here, though many others may share them -- those of us who believe that the freedoms enjoyed in the United States are worth not only promoting but defending have been distressed by the drumbeat of anti-American stories Mr. Hein posts to the AR-Talk list under cover of "Religion News Blog." As with any editor, Mr. Hein has the right to select the stories he likes. But when people respond, negatively, and with countervailing information, Mr. Hein's hackles are raised. How odd!

D) Mr. Hein laments that in my AR-Talk and AR-Forum postings, I am someone who "defends religious cults under the banner of 'religious freedom.'" Oh my! Mr. Hein forgets that the European Declaration of Human Rights and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights -- documents to which his much-touted Netherlands are signatories -- guarantees the right of people to practice, promote and change their religion without coercion by the state.

Mr. Hein labors mightily against the so-called "slippery slope" argument epitomized, I believe, by German pastor Martin Niemoeller's formulation:

First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.

-- by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945 (Source: http://www.hoboes.com/html/FireBlade/Politics/niemoller.shtml)

But we've seen the truth of this "slippery slope" time and time again. Mr. Hein, in essence, has said he expects persecution because he is a Christian, and that's fair enough. But I see nothing -- not one word, not one sentence -- in which I as a Christian am commanded to allow or encourage the rise of such persecution. Indeed, as a good citizen, I am required to make my voice heard so that the rights of all might be protected.

Mr. Hein failed to note that I am a "nice Jewish boy" from Rego Park, Queens, New York, who found Yeshua (Jesus) as the Messiah. He also omits the fact (shared with him several times) that half of my father's extended family in Europe died in the Shoah. As such, I am personally committed to not seeing that happen again, to anyone, which is why I defend religious freedom for all.

Can Mr. Hein think of a good reason not to? Can YOU?

Why Apologetics Answers? (or, "The Hasty Publishing Club")
Anton Hein, noted "co-publisher" of Apologetics Index, responded to the first message on this board with a rather lengthy post, including the following:

"Faced with criticism from Anton Hein, the co-publisher of Apologetics Index (and the author of this web page), Kellner defends his views on a hastily published weblog, ironically called 'Apologetics Answers.'"

Well, everyone's a critic, as the saying goes. Mr. Hein failed to mention that he has asked me for years to "publish" my own Web site. I set up a Weblog as quickly as possible since he denied posting (on his Apolotalk list) my response to his comments, and now he faults the speed and my choice of titles.

There is, oddly enough, an irony here. Mr. Hein regularly rails against a certain religious group -- he calls them "a commercial enterprise that masquerades as a religion, and that increasingly acts like a hate group" -- which may complain when its names are used by others, since those names are registered trademarks. Yet, he feels no compunction in blasting my choice of a title for this Blog, specifically "Apologetics Answers." (And, for the record, neither "Apologetics" nor "Answers" appear to be registered trademarks of Anton Hein.)

Inasmuch as I am a working professional, this Blog is a personal endeavor and I do it as quickly and inexpensively as possible. Perhaps I can develop a site as complex and well developed as Mr. Hein's at some point in the future. For now, I would want to have this judged on the merits of its content.

Your comments and questions are welcome via e-mail: mark@kellner.us.

Why Apologetics Matters ...
The recent confirmation of the Rev. Canon V. Gene Robinson as a bishop in the Episcopal Church of the United States of America raised many eyebrows -- and many questions. One wing of that church views moral law, apparently, as fungible: strictures on certain behaviors are no longer valid, despite affirmation in both the Old and New Testaments. Another segment of Episcopalians view the Robinson vote as a rebellion against the tenets of Biblical Christianity.

This is but one example of where apologetics -- defending the faith -- is important. Those questioning the moves within the Episcopal Church need clear guidance on what the Bible defines as acceptable conduct for a minister in a church, or for a lay member as well. By pointing to the Bible standard, versus the flexible doctrines of the moment, apologists can perform a valuable service.

Answering Anton Hein's Charges
...about my Christianity Today magazine news article on the Local Church and the lawsuit involving Harvest House Publishers and authors John Ankerberg and John Weldon.

An article by Mark A. Kellner (bio online at http://www.kellner.us/bio.html)

>>Note: An "interactive" version of this article, featuring live links, can be found at http://www.tinyurl.com/jonn <<

In re-reading Mr. Hein's last public AR-Forum posting on the subject, I came across what is apparently one of his main charges concerning the CT article, to wit:

“...in my opinion your current attempt to rush to the aid of yet another religious cult is ill-advised in that it appears you fail to acknowledge and/or understand:
a) the Local Church's lengthy record of legal threats,
b) and its status as - theologically - a cult of Christianity, and
c) its record of cultic behavior”

Source: Anton Hein's posting on AR-Talk, 10 August 2003; sadly, such posts are not available via Web access at this time, so far as I can determine.

It may be worth reading the following excerpts from the article, "Local Church Fights for Evangelical ID Card: Witness Lee group sues for $136 million over Harvest House cults article," as it appears in the February issue of Christianity Today. (Nota Bene: Mr. Hein cites this as the "Jan. 14, 2003 issue" when in fact that was merely the date on which the article was posted to CT's Web site. The correct reference is the February 2003 issue.)

(1) Mr. Hein first alleges that I “fail to acknowledge and/or understand" what he terms "the Local Church's lengthy record of legal threats.”

FACT: My article is abundantly clear about this track record:

===begin excerpt===
Going to court

Indeed, the current libel suit is not a first for the group. The Local Church previously sued Thomas Nelson Publishers over The Mind Benders (1977), which former Campus Crusade for Christ worker Jack Sparks wrote. It also sued the Spiritual Counterfeits Project (SCP) over the German edition of Neil Duddy's The God-Men . Both volumes, now out of print, extensively criticized Local Church teachings and practices.

Thomas Nelson settled out of court with the Local Church and published a retraction in 1983. SCP fared worse. Duddy left the United States reportedly because of legal pressures related to the suit. SCP declared bankruptcy. Subsequently, a judge ruled that the book was libelous and awarded $11.9 million to the Local Church. SCP was able to pay only $34,000. In the current suit, Living Stream and the Local Church are seeking $20 million each. In addition, 96 local fellowships are seeking $1 million each. The group said that it is suing because extensive attempts at mediation with the authors and publisher have failed.

Harvest House Publishers, based in Eugene, Oregon, had unsuccessfully sued the Local Church in 2001. The publisher asked an Oregon court to declare that the Ankerberg/Weldon book "has not defamed" the group. On March 15, 2002, a Lane County, Oregon, circuit court judge ruled the court had no jurisdiction over the Local Church. The judge dismissed the suit "with prejudice," meaning it could not be re-filed. Harvest House declined comment for this article.
===end excerpt ===

(2) Mr. Hein then claims that I “fail to acknowledge and/or understand" the Local Church's "...status as -- theologically -- a cult of Christianity.”

FACT: The article does not support Mr. Hein's claim:

===begin excerpt===
Subtle in error?

Ankerberg and Weldon do not critique the anti-denominational teaching of Lee as such. In the encyclopedia's doctrinal appendix (cited in the lawsuit), the authors say, "All cults and religions deny the unique incarnation of [Christ] the Second Person of the Godhead." The article on the Local Church cited the movement's "mystical approach" and "claims of new revelation" as examples of its "occult potential."

The article says the Local Church wrongly believes that elect Christians "become God by their union and communion with him." Ankerberg, who for 20 years has broadcast weekly TV discussions of Mormonism, the Masonic Lodge, Silva Mind Control, and other belief systems, declined an interview for this article.

In interviews with CT , Living Stream President Benson Phillips and Local Church Elder Daniel E. Towle said Local Church leaders do not teach that believers can "become God as God is God." Rather, Towle said, a believer becomes a God-man only "in the sense of regeneration and sanctification."

Witness Lee, in a 1994 video message quoted in a recent Local Church brochure, said, "God became man that man may become God." The group calls this "the greatest truth in the whole Bible." Phillips said Lee's statement was based on a quotation from the early church father Athanasius: "He [God] became man that we might become God." Believers become, according to Witness Lee, "God in his life and in his nature, but not in his godhead."

Phillips told CT , "We believe God is triune, distinct in persons, but not separate. In his move through time, the Son was sent to Earth. We believe the three are eternally co-existing and co-inhere."

But E. Calvin Beisner, a theology and ethics professor at Knox Theological Seminary in Fort Lauderdale, remains skeptical of the Local Church. He first studied the group in the 1970s. "They have become more subtle in their error, and therefore all the more likely to get people thinking that they are orthodox, when in fact they are not.

"They claim to be Christian, but certain elements of their teaching are contradictory to, and not just tangential to, defining truths of the Christian faith."

In a March 2002 letter, Beisner—who is cited about a dozen times in the Harvest House encyclopedia—said that in his opinion the Local Church:
-- "Insists that the Father is the Son and the Son is the Spirit."

-- "Goes far beyond the Eastern Orthodox concept" in its deification teachings.
-- Has a tendency to sue its critics, "entirely out of keeping" with the apostle Paul's advice in 1 Corinthians.

===end excerpt ===

(3) Mr. Hein claims that, in respect to the Local Church, my article ignored “its record of cultic behavior.”

FACT: I believe the article, as written does not ignore the issue:

===begin excerpts===
The Local Church insists it is evangelical, not a cult. Living Stream Ministry (LSM), the group's nonprofit publishing corporation, has joined the main trade group for evangelical publishers and hired a top literary agent for Christian writers. Living Stream points to its statement of faith as proof of its orthodox beliefs.

Chinese Christian patriarch Watchman Nee founded the Local Church movement in the 1920s in China, and it has spread to Europe and North America. For many years after Nee's 1972 death in a communist prison, his disciple Witness Lee led the group. Lee, who resettled in Anaheim, California, died at age 91 in 1997. The group uses its own English translation of the Bible, the Recovery Version, and claims 25,000 adherents in the United States and 250,000 worldwide.

Lee passionately opposed the sectarian character of Protestant denominations. He argued that such groups "denied the Lord's name by denominating" themselves, an action he branded as "spiritual fornication." LSM President Benson Phillips told CT that Lee believed denominations create confusion among nonbelievers. "We don't view these organizations as the church themselves. Our speaking in this way is not directed to the people [within denominations]."
Evangelical verdict uncertain

Few evangelicals publicly support the Local Church or Living Stream. But the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association (ECPA), which counts Harvest House as a founding member, has accepted Living Stream, based in Anaheim, California, as a member.

ECPA President Doug Ross said the group carefully examined Living Stream's statement of faith and interviewed its executives before granting admission. Living Stream also belongs to CBA, the national association of Christian retailers. Living Stream and several Local Church congregations have joined the Evangelical Christian Credit Union in Brea, California.

Local Church leaders have hired evangelical attorney Sealy Yates of Orange, California, as a literary consultant. The Yates law firm and literary agency has also represented Dallas Seminary Chancellor Chuck Swindoll, pastor and motivational speaker John Maxwell, and former Vice President Dan Quayle.
While Knox's Beisner does not count the group as evangelical, James Bjornstad, vice president of Evangelical Ministries to New Religions, is less critical. ...
===end excerpt===

Anyone who reads the article in full will see a balanced presentation of the issues. Mr. Hein may not realize that a news article — which this was — is intended to be a news report and not a theological critique. However, I believe my report — which was NOT, by the way, instigated in any form by the Local Church or anyone connected with the group — is fair and accurate. Mr. Hein's claims as stated above simply are not true as to the claim that I fail to “acknowledge” these matters. As to Mr. Hein's assertion that I do not understand them, I would ask how he proposes to know what is in my mind? I believe the article shows a more than adequate understanding of the issues as far as a general news report is concerned.

Of course, the greater issues remain:

(1) Why did Harvest House file a pre-emptory lawsuit against the Local Church, and how does this square with the scriptural admonitions against legal action (in I Corinthians) which Mr. Hein likes to cite against the Local Church? Does one group of Christians* get a pass on this, but not another?

(2) Why did Harvest House refuse to meet with people who sought a dialogue and understanding of an issue about which people reasonably disagree?

(3) Do Christians* have a right to defend themselves if other Christians refuse the Bible standard (Matt. 18:15-17) by which disputes should be settled?

The answers to these questions would, I believe, make for interesting reading. Yet, despite repeated attempts, neither Harvest House nor John Ankerberg would talk to me for the CT article.

One more point, in case you're wondering: I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Local Church. I have never been in their employ, nor have I been a contractor for them or any subsidiary. The views expressed on this page are solely my own and do not represent any church, denomination, publication or entity.

* Mr. Hein has written that he considers the Local Church a "cult of Christianity" (see, for example, this page on his Web site) and that is his privilege. However, given that the Local Church considers themselves within the realm of evangelical Christianity, as do, apparently, the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association, the Evangelical Credit Union and the (chiefly evangelical) Christian Booksellers Association, then it would appear that there are those who would understand the lawsuit as a dispute between two groups of Christians. Moreover, if Mr. Hein does not consider the Local Church to be "Christian," in the evangelical sense, then why is he imposing a "Christian" standard on them?

Questions? Comments? Send me an e-mail: mark@kellner.us

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